tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post4993232716608594396..comments2024-02-22T02:33:21.869+08:00Comments on Another Brick in the Wall: What "the untold MAS story" did not tell? (Part 3)A Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-48664351686968856252011-03-18T09:13:27.968+08:002011-03-18T09:13:27.968+08:00Hey Voice, did you hear that MAS promoted Dr. Wafi...Hey Voice, did you hear that MAS promoted Dr. Wafi? He's now EVP and Chief Risk Officer. All this publicity you gave him must have helped get him noticed! Now he will be truly untouchable in that company. Ha Ha Ha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-7764448491463332382011-02-24T14:49:51.403+08:002011-02-24T14:49:51.403+08:00You are barking at the wrong tree. There are some ...You are barking at the wrong tree. There are some evidences leading to his wrong doing. Probably not 8b possibly some amount. Dato' Ramli as a police officer, is his duty to raise the matter. and as for Rosli Dahlan he was asked by MAS to take up the case or else nothing much he can do. I don't see any benefit for Rosli Dahlan and Dato' Ramli but for TR yes. <br />I think you need to be more rational.<br /><br />Harimau.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-8720424630749074042011-02-21T01:34:38.262+08:002011-02-21T01:34:38.262+08:00ABITW - agreed with you
the point is not about de...ABITW - agreed with you<br /><br />the point is not about defending TR <br />( he's a gone case already ).<br /><br />But it's about some party who claim to be patriotic enough to save MAS by using TR past records in MAS and at the same time charging/looting the rakyats money out of MAS for an already closed file. <br />AN ALREADY CLOSED FILE.<br /><br />Now can you see clearly how smart are these Robin Hoods.<br /><br />Only JoeNgos can't see it clearly now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-73710575331480264622011-02-20T20:42:56.371+08:002011-02-20T20:42:56.371+08:00Anan 4.09 am
The question is why's that the a...Anan 4.09 am<br /><br />The question is why's that the alleged misdeeds of Tajuddin as implied by you were not captured under the MAS accounting system.<br /><br />We can read a lot of grandma's tales but we won't let that influence our perception of facts. Prove your case in letters or numbers black and white.<br /><br />MAS is a listed company. A major one too. You mean they can play-around with the accounting and none too clever to call the bluff?<br /><br />AB I am with you. As long as you stay with the facts.<br /><br />GELUGORAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-16806264319926757732011-02-20T20:00:48.261+08:002011-02-20T20:00:48.261+08:00Anon 6:42 and 4:07 AM
I will answer the specific ...Anon 6:42 and 4:07 AM<br /><br />I will answer the specific in due time.<br /> <br />Get this straight. The allegation is MAS lost RM8 billion during Tajuddin's time. <br /><br />Assume PMB took MAS asset of RM8 billion, that money was used to reduce liabilities and bank loans.<br /><br />MAS's balance sheet is less by RM8 billion and it's liabilities side is lessen by RM8 billion too. <br /><br />But it does not show into the profit and loss unless the sale of the asset is below book value. <br /><br />Profit and loss has to be on accountant logic and not lawyers logic. <br /><br />My motivation is not about saving or defending Tajuddin but to dispell the tales of lies and conspiracy of those out to ridicule government institutions.<br /><br />Neither you nor I have to like Tajuddin.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-64861101838095863562011-02-20T10:03:06.203+08:002011-02-20T10:03:06.203+08:00Bro,
Din Merican revealed the entire wayang. Is it...Bro,<br />Din Merican revealed the entire wayang. Is it true your now part of the Axis of Evil?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-41020061406691014642011-02-20T04:09:53.788+08:002011-02-20T04:09:53.788+08:00Dear A Voice(Anon),
I am the original Anonymou...Dear A Voice(Anon),<br /> I am the original Anonymous tahat you answered earlier. This is my reply.<br /><br /> Firstly, I would like to say that you do not have to be emotional by saying bad words. I suspect you might be the writer or the spinner himself. Wallahuallam.<br /><br />1. I know where Hahn is and better than you I might say as I have been there. I know the whole story. My comment was why did the writer not write the whole story about Hahn. Why mention it in passing? Why not tell that MAS advise Tajudin not to go to Hahn as that airport has a bad connection to other airport and the cost would be more MAS advise Tajudin not to sign the contract with Atlas Air as it was not profitable to MAS. Why did sign the contract with ACL knowing that Ralph Gotz is his brother in law? JJ, the MAS Cargo boss resigned in protest. That is a fact. JJ came back as Cargo Boss after Tajudin left. This Hahn is where the major leak in MAS coffers. I can go on and on about Hahn and all of the facts and proof but I believe you are not interested.<br /><br />2. Liqidifying MAS Assets.<br /> The biggest assets that MAS has is their fleet of aircraft. When Tajudin took over, MAS owns more than 80% of their fleet. The rest was on lease. That also was the B734 which was lease earlier before the arrival of the ordered MAS B734 Fleet. $ A330s were also on lease.The B747 and A330s were own by MAS. The Fokker 50s were also own by MAS. Tajudin sold all of these aircraft to a company in Saudi Arabia and also Japan and lease them back. MAS had 10 B747 and 10 A330s. Tajudin sold off an apartment that belongs to MAS in Central London. I can go on and on. But what's the point? It is public knowledge for those who wants to know. Go and calculate yourself how much is that. <br /><br />3. The cash reserves is again public knowledge. After Datuk Kamarudin left MAS, MAS had those reserves even though his administration was tainted and there was a revolt in MAS and this matter was brought forward to Mahathir by 40 Ali Babas. Tajudin was invited then. Go ask Dato Wan Malek.<br /><br />4. For the WAU, can you please tell me what are the billions in asset that was handed to Tan Sri Mohd Noor that amount to billions. Please list them. MAS was doom. Tan Sri Mohn Noor could not do anything as he was not allowed to stop the routes that was losing money. Then the WAU came where the Govt pump in money to help MAS. Again usage of public money.<br /><br />5. Why did the Finance Ministry bought the MAS shares at RM 8 when the actual value was less than half?<br /><br /> I can go on to the actual specific and numbers and figures but then again, what good will it do? Will Tajudin ever get his day in court.In retrospect, before writing an article, please check your facts and carry out an indepth investigation and/or interviews instead of spinning stories. <br /><br /> May God Save Your Soul.<br /><br /> Wassallam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-2242913963003287572011-02-19T18:42:13.376+08:002011-02-19T18:42:13.376+08:00ko ni mmg kurang ajar
ni baca muka surat 24 anggar...ko ni mmg kurang ajar<br />ni baca muka surat 24 anggaran perbelanjaan perseketuaan<br /><br />2004 Standard Chartered Bank Offshore Pembiayaan Am (b) + 0.360 2002/2009 USD 300,000,000.00 USD 300,000,000.00 1,037,010,000.00<br />2004 Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd (9M - MRP) Pembelian Aset (b) + 0.400 2004/2016 USD 122,000,000.00 USD 87,345,267.27 301,926,385.37<br />2004 Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd (9M - MRQ) Pembelian Aset (b) + 0.400 2004/2016 USD 122,000,000.00 USD 87,683,775.35 303,096,506.25<br />2006 Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd (9M - MRQ) Pembelian Aset (b) + 0.300 2006/2020 USD 140,000,000.00 USD 121,154,181.27 418,793,658.40<br />2006 Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. Pembelian Aset 5.625 2006/2016 USD 1,000,000,000.00 USD 1,000,000,000.00 3,456,700,000.00<br />2006 Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd (9M - MRQ) Pembelian Aset (b) + 0.300 2006/2020 USD 140,000,000.00 USD 121,337,751.54 419,428,205.75<br />2009 Islamic Medium Term Notes(Trance 1) Pembelian Aset 3.850 2009/2014 RM 2,200,000,000.00 - 1,500,000,000.00<br />2009 Islamic Medium Term Notes(Trance 2) Pembelian Aset 3.450 2012 - 250,000,000.00<br />Jumlah Penerbangan Malaysia Berhad 7,686,954,755.77<br /><br />ni kalau kao ni malas nak cari ni aku kasi link<br />http://www.treasury.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1715%3Acadangan-anggaran-perbelanjaan-persekutuan-2010&catid=88%3Acatmaklumat-bajet-kerajaan-persekutuan&Itemid=208&lang=my<br /><br />kalau tak tahu jgn nak bodoh sombong. mencarut plak!<br /><br />kedua,ingat kao pandai sangat ke.<br />dlm wau beban hutang RM 7 billion. Asset RM 5 billion. jgn nak malas ni baca<br />http://www.binafikir.com/mas.pdf<br />m/s 2<br /><br />sama je kapital injection RM 2 b<br />ok kalau kapital injection RM 2b, berapa nilai ekuiti MAS sebelum diselamatkan kerajaan. <br /><br />kalau tak erti jgn nak kutuk orang. kau nak puji pun jgn puji penyamun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-41807365427092992982011-02-19T15:52:53.149+08:002011-02-19T15:52:53.149+08:00Anon 12:07 (which cud be Anon 3:19 AM)
You said: ...Anon 12:07 (which cud be Anon 3:19 AM)<br /><br /><b>You said:</b> <br /><br />Penerbangan Malaysia has more than RM 7.8 billion in Govt guaranteed debts. This was orginially MAS liabilities transferred to the tax payer. <br /><br /><b>I say:</b><br /><br />Not just the liabilities transfered to PMB but the asset too. It will reflects reduction of the same in MAS balance sheet. THat is if you understand basic accounting. <br /><br />LCCI Part 1 student will know that RM7.8 billion liabilities with assets attached is not a profit and loss item.<br /><br />Ooly a sneeky lawyer will interpret a liability without looking at asset and call it a loss!<br /><br />By the way, Binafikir did the WAuy for RM5 billion and not RM7.8 billion.<br /><br /><b>Get your fucking facts rights before trying to argue la ... asshole!</b><br /><br /><br /><br /><b>You said</b><br /><br />RPK showed how the ACL deal was linked back to Tajuddin Ramli. <br /><br /><b>I say:</b><br /><br />Why should we believe RPK? He never study accounting. He didnt even entered University. Furthermore he is not an authority on MAS. <br /><br />The ACL deal can be linked to Tajuddin ... that is not the issue that RPK raised and the Ramli/Rosli raised. <br /><br />The issue they raised was that Tajuddin did not declare interest.<br /><br />The answer ... <b>THEY LIED BIG TIME AND AN EXHIBIT RPK PUBLISH SHOWED TAJUDDIN ACQUIRING INTEREST AFTER LEAVING MAS .... <i>kah kah kah</i>!</b><br /><br /><b>You said:</b> <br /><br />The EU courts have no local standing to investigate what form of conflict of interest a Malay run company does. They were only concerned with whether or not MAS was liable for breaking the contract.<br /><br /><b>I Say</b>:<br /><br />I have the document with me. MAS raised all issue including that on conflict of interest, non disclosure of interest ....<br /><br />When you agree to arbitrate, you accept it as the final settlement. <br /><br />You dont try to do sneeky thing like meeting a sleepy and stupid prime minister and make him ask to investigate again. <br /><br />THat is what lawyers with no honour advise their client and client with no honor do. <br /><br />Win or lose, you accept that game is over.<br /><br /><b>You say:</b><br /><br />That conflict of interest was to be investigated by the AUTHORITIES but it wont be investigated as long as Gani Patail is the AG.<br /><br /><b>I say</b>:<br /><br />Hey bodoh!<br /><br />Baca betul2 .. it is not Gani Patail who NFAed but Dato Azmi. <br /><br />Illiterate ka?A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-81142145348095858202011-02-19T15:13:51.240+08:002011-02-19T15:13:51.240+08:00Thank you saudara.
I wish I was the writer. Kudos...Thank you saudara.<br /><br />I wish I was the writer. Kudos to him also.<br /><br />I am more of the silent type (battle hardened and deadly) <br /><br />We shall converge again, saudara.<br /><br />The Flying BuffetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-13468962756836354362011-02-19T12:07:46.562+08:002011-02-19T12:07:46.562+08:00Penerbangan Malaysia has more than RM 7.8 billion ...Penerbangan Malaysia has more than RM 7.8 billion in Govt guaranteed debts. This was orginially MAS liabilities transferred to the tax payer. RPK showed how the ACL deal was linked back to Tajuddin Ramli. The EU courts have no local standing to investigate what form of conflict of interest a Malay run company does. They were only concerned with whether or not MAS was liable for breaking the contract.<br /><br />That conflict of interest was to be investigated by the AUTHORITIES but it wont be investigated as long as Gani Patail is the AG.<br /><br />If you want to glorify and protect one of the biggest petualang then stop claiming you are fighting for the race .<br /><br />You prove what we know. You is all hypocrites who will sell the Malays down for an extra dime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-61195473345095504042011-02-19T08:06:11.370+08:002011-02-19T08:06:11.370+08:00bro
i think anon 3.19 is somebody who try to cove...bro<br /><br />i think anon 3.19 is somebody who try to cover his shit but the smell of telur tembelang can't be wiped out.<br /><br />fuhh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-88506557810209392072011-02-19T05:42:37.054+08:002011-02-19T05:42:37.054+08:00The Flying Buffet
I agree with you.
Although so...The Flying Buffet<br /><br />I agree with you. <br /><br />Although some have retired, the real culprits are still deep inside.<br /><br />Are you the writer of the in famous flying buffet article?A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-68133167407029453022011-02-19T05:40:43.356+08:002011-02-19T05:40:43.356+08:00Anon 3:19 AM
You said:
MAS has all the figures ...Anon 3:19 AM<br /><br />You said: <br /><br />MAS has all the figures as to how the RM 8 billion come into picture. <br /><br />I say: <br /><br />Why then is the police report from the first one in 2002 about ACL and the Hahn cargo Hub and not about the alleged RM8 bilion loss?<br /><br />MAS has all the figures. They have it in all the AUDITED annual report.<br /><br />Who am I to believe between big six international audit firm vis a vis Raja Petra the compulsive liar or lying Cambodian Professor Din Merican or liar lawyer Rosli Dahlan or politician Salahuddin Ayub?<br /><br />You said:<br /><br />You mention ACL and Hahn in passing. What crap is this? <br /><br />I suggest you read the crap by Raja Petra. <br /><br />And if you do not know, it is a cargo hub between MAS and ACL to a new airport in Hahn near Geneva.<br /><br />You said: <br /><br />Tajudin liqudified all of MAS assets and where did the money go? <br /><br />I said: <br /><br />Specifics please. YOu ve been reading MT and DIn and assuming them as truth.<br /><br />YOu said: <br /><br />MAS had more than RM 1 billion in cash reserves? Where did it go? <br /><br />I said: <br /><br />Show me what year MAS has cash reserve of RM1 billion?<br /><br />Can you be smarter to not just look at cash but the asset and liabilities of balance sheet.<br /><br />You said: <br /><br />MAS was left with billions in debts? <br /><br />I said: <br /><br />MAS was also left with billions of asset.<br /><br />Some smart alecs decided to use government money to take the asset and debt out under a scheme called WAU. <br /><br />You said: <br /><br />You go figure it out yourself instead of reading crap and bull from this guy. To me he is just worth the shit that you waste every day.<br /><br />I said:<br /><br />The bigger shit are those who do not know what the shit theey are talking about.<br /><br />Suggestion: Take up some Introduction course in Accounting and use MAS annual account as case study.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-83050763239711936362011-02-19T03:19:50.093+08:002011-02-19T03:19:50.093+08:00This is a great spin. The story has no facts at al...This is a great spin. The story has no facts at all. MAS has all the figures as to how the RM 8 billion come into picture. You mention ACL and Hahn in passing. What crap is this? Tajudin liqudified all of MAS assets and where did the money go? MAS had more than RM 1 billion in cash reserves? Where did it go? MAS was left with billions in debts? You go figure it out yourself instead of reading crap and bull from this guy. To me he is just worth the shit that you waste every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-30200841666775559492011-02-18T22:12:46.303+08:002011-02-18T22:12:46.303+08:00Hi guys,
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Korek, korek sama dia.
The real ...Tahniah Saudara. <br />Korek, korek sama dia.<br />The real culprits are still inside MAS.<br />In http://www.freemalaysiakini.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10528,<br /><br />3 salient points were raised<br />a. MAS must return to basics<br />b. Jala did not turnaround MAS<br />c. To deploy the right people in taking MAS forward<br /><br />The Flying BuffetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-66196719622044505142011-02-17T19:28:33.032+08:002011-02-17T19:28:33.032+08:00Rosli Dahlan is an untouchable in MAS, especially ...Rosli Dahlan is an untouchable in MAS, especially in their legal department.. whatever he wants, he gets. He has free run over the place macam itu office dia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-60295512245876702672011-02-17T16:12:23.496+08:002011-02-17T16:12:23.496+08:00suara,
loud and clear. that's how an investig...suara,<br /><br />loud and clear. that's how an investigaton report should be written.<br /><br />not like Prof din merican and RPK's siri bercakap dengan jin.<br /><br />would prefer if you upload some of the ICC content as well but the reason is understood.<br /><br />rock on, bro. we want more.Tok Mudimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-24505400555708249362011-02-17T14:23:09.688+08:002011-02-17T14:23:09.688+08:00mohon link dengan blog tuanmohon link dengan blog tuanTESLAMARINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16322949004142874876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-11311607025942121502011-02-17T11:21:34.268+08:002011-02-17T11:21:34.268+08:00...please keep following the money....i'm just......please keep following the money....i'm just a fong shui loh...I just look at their faces (those on this posting), they tell a lot...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com