tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post3249317786340101679..comments2024-02-22T02:33:21.869+08:00Comments on Another Brick in the Wall: Its not Genetic Eliticism, but Feudalism. Let it not be Grassroot Rhetorics. (Revised Posting)A Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-37051383797616663702008-12-30T21:43:00.000+08:002008-12-30T21:43:00.000+08:00Mr. Padedoh Confucious once said, never read blog ...Mr. Padedoh <BR/><BR/>Confucious once said, never read blog on shaky chair. It could crumble anytime.<BR/><BR/>So we agree to disagree ... but we agree we not continue to do the same forever.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-46987121523991803902008-12-30T00:29:00.000+08:002008-12-30T00:29:00.000+08:00Hi,Its feudalism alright. The real loser in this i...Hi,<BR/><BR/>Its feudalism alright. The real loser in this is the rakyat. I don't know much about PAS but for the other parties, stenches of nepotism abound. What Malaysia need is a rule that no political party shall have in its top 50 leadership structure, present or future, a relative of its top 5 leaders - something like that.<BR/><BR/>That way, there is no need for all who were spoken for, to be involved in politics. They can serve Malaysia in other aspects. Good example - Marina Mahathir.<BR/><BR/>That way, we dont have Mahathir/Mukhriz, Paklah-Khairy, Kitsiang/Guan Eng, Nurul/Anwar, Karpal/Gobind, KengYaik-Si Pin(?)tag teams, and so on.<BR/><BR/>I mean, the original pool is a lot larger than these people, unless you think so little of yourselves!hoqnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903186523275927894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-13237061233094704982008-12-29T20:10:00.000+08:002008-12-29T20:10:00.000+08:00Hi YM Voicey,Almost fell out of my chair reading y...Hi YM Voicey,<BR/>Almost fell out of my chair reading your diatribe. May I be so humble to ask which UMNO leader, <I>aside from the first term MP of Jerlun</I>, espouses the notion of fair play, and honest talk.<BR/>Malaysian politics is full of minefields, the coroner has lost count of the bodies. No sir, I disagree, you need the smartest, most tactical player on the block, one who can cut deals, sacrifice allies because I don't think there ever will be a situation when the citizens and others-turned-citizens hold hands with each other and sing Kum Ba Yah.Or <I>Yes we can.</I><BR/><BR/>But it is a mark of progress if the said protagonist is well educated as it would raise the acts and scenes of political skullduggery to a more refined level. And this is progress, and<BR/>we could call that a step towards Wawasan 2020.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-31320839816566158412008-12-29T11:19:00.000+08:002008-12-29T11:19:00.000+08:00Salam Hijrah dan Tahun Baru 2009Salam Hijrah dan Tahun Baru 2009Pok Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06733126661685399191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-14847874756652230262008-12-29T11:12:00.000+08:002008-12-29T11:12:00.000+08:00Salam awal Muharram.Not that I'm defending MM, but...Salam awal Muharram.<BR/>Not that I'm defending MM, but when you talk about 'sharp' politicians, how sharp is Arnold, Reagan and Bush? Mudah-mudahan 1430 hijrah membawa kesedaran untuk menilai yang baik dan memperbaiki kekurangan dalam diri Melayu.BaitiBadarudinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255773362994807469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-53195442326209790352008-12-29T08:47:00.000+08:002008-12-29T08:47:00.000+08:00Fair comment by matalebam to use his lost to Zul B...Fair comment by matalebam to use his lost to Zul Beras as not sharp. Without having to describe what happened, the weakness of that opinion is that it is still within the narrowed political rhetorical thinking. <BR/><BR/>I would pose the question if you care to answer (NOT FURTHER EXPLANATION OF YOUR ALREADY UNDERSTOOD POINTS):<BR/><BR/>1. How would your yardstick of sharp in politics be? To be able to play dirtier than the other dirtbag? To be able to outmanouvre with another mischievous manouvre?<BR/><BR/>2. Till when will we mature and bring change to politics? Coming back to this article, a politics of substance - ideas, reasons, and deliverables, NOT OF CAMPAIGN TACTICS AND STRATEGIES ONLY.<BR/><BR/>3. Do you want a leader who is made of sharpness in manouvring but will perpetuate feudelism leadership only able in maintaining power through dishonest means, sadism, and trickery? <BR/><BR/>The people want a clean, able and honest leader that uphold principle. Not sharpness in dirty political play. <BR/><BR/>If we do not heed their call, learn to be an opposition.<BR/><BR/>The opposition's choice for Ketua Pemuda is definately not Mukhriz. We've heard Raja Petra's choice and I know who PAS's choice is. Their motivation is to bring UMNO down to its knees.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-60941286971135016742008-12-29T05:00:00.000+08:002008-12-29T05:00:00.000+08:00ABITW,Mukhriz isnt the sharpest tool in the shed i...ABITW,<BR/><BR/>Mukhriz isnt the sharpest tool in the shed if you know what i mean. Im not sure MM is ready to take a top post like that. He hasnt even held a proper post until today as Youth Exco let alone in his Division. Lost to a towkay beras in 2004 in Kubang Pasu, and can even have the balls to fight Jo Baharum. <BR/><BR/>This guy aint smart neither he is brave unlike the other 2. Thats what i yhink at least.matalebamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02034733103406242518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-18685963937667986192008-12-27T20:28:00.000+08:002008-12-27T20:28:00.000+08:00Its always good to have some common ground, who kn...Its always good to have some common ground, who knows one day, it may extend a bit further.<BR/><BR/>WJKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-11977045703016500672008-12-27T19:23:00.000+08:002008-12-27T19:23:00.000+08:00I have always been sceptical about the genetics ex...I have always been sceptical about the genetics explanation. In fairness, we should never mistake Sak's intellectual reach and his desire to provoke thought and debate, with his beliefs.<BR/><BR/>I tend to agree that the feudal view is more compelling than the genetics argument. Feudalism is legalistic, sociological and political - things that we can do something about. But, genetics is DNA-coding that no one except Dr Frankenstein can do anything about.de minimishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06478671079348612565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-76180864550490688102008-12-27T09:29:00.000+08:002008-12-27T09:29:00.000+08:00Mr. Padedoh Glad there is something we can concur ...Mr. Padedoh <BR/><BR/>Glad there is something we can concur .. your last para. <BR/><BR/>This is outside the discussion in this current posting. I would add one more parampount consideration, that is facing up to PRU13. <BR/><BR/>With regard to landslide and stuff, how about getting the timeline <BR/><BR/>... and, the blame right.<BR/><BR/>Nasiruddin<BR/><BR/>I can't disagree to your view but nomination is one part of the game. <BR/><BR/>Getting delegate votes is another. There is some 800 delegates that Isa Samad will demand at Padang Mahsyar.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-32367122386628143232008-12-26T21:21:00.000+08:002008-12-26T21:21:00.000+08:00Dear VoiceI agree that a person's background and u...Dear Voice<BR/><BR/>I agree that a person's background and upbringing should never be SOLELY used for or against a potential leader.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058653104014681765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-88061458167205894332008-12-26T20:10:00.000+08:002008-12-26T20:10:00.000+08:00Jed oh Jed! Pleaselah...dont disgrace or confuse u...Jed oh Jed! Pleaselah...dont disgrace or confuse urself if u donno history.<BR/><BR/>Voice ~ What's with Mukhriz and N9 MB?<BR/><BR/>~Mask Rider~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-76509672898506006622008-12-26T17:48:00.000+08:002008-12-26T17:48:00.000+08:00It reminds me to current PM and DPM of Ireland who...It reminds me to current PM and DPM of Ireland who launched their political career in continuity of their father legacy. And both of them was elected only after their fathers death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-76608668788762099282008-12-26T17:27:00.000+08:002008-12-26T17:27:00.000+08:00Not bad for a contradiction. It does seem a far st...Not bad for a contradiction. It does seem a far stretch on the IQ of the average citizen, no matter how dumb they may be to suppose that Dato' Mukhriz upbringing was anything but ordinary.<BR/>You have to be clear - are you for or against silver spoons taking the seats of power? <BR/>A rags to riches story is a plus by itself, but when in the process, development orders were apporved that later led to landslides, and loss of life, one may need to ask some critical questions as to the character of the individual.<BR/><BR/>This is a fight between DM and KJ. I too was pretty concerned about the quite blatant dynastic tradition evolving in UMNO, but in the end of the day, for the KP race, what I believe is that delegates would vote in the most promising invidiual, because the challenges facing foes within BN and in the opposition is a challenge not meant for the faint hearted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-8873466961153389332008-12-26T16:07:00.000+08:002008-12-26T16:07:00.000+08:00Dear A Voice,I beg to differ. Truth is social bac...Dear A Voice,<BR/><BR/>I beg to differ. Truth is social backgrounds, hereditary or in the writer's word feudalism have nothing to do with UMNO politics and election nowadays. In UMNO, you can because you can afford......<BR/><BR/>From top to bottom , almost everybody agreed that Money or kickbacks is the main driving force behind all the twist and turn of nomination process. sad to say, our countrymen pride itself for nominating people in exchange for temporary monetary gratification. Come to Sabah and ask any grassroot member. Ask any campaigner you know, they'll admit that they are campaigning for some kind or just any kind of returns!<BR/><BR/>What else could explain the last minute came-from-behind votes of so many underdogs candidates vying for various nominations. Somebody or some groups decided to dish out the 'investment' for the underdogs at the very last moment.<BR/><BR/>I could be in trouble for saying this, but sad to say that the famous Dr. M has also lamented on the same issue....<BR/><BR/>The injury forced on UMNO by money politics will have to take some time to heal.Nasirudin Anjudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13611395357052513394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-3844561952666670802008-12-26T13:55:00.000+08:002008-12-26T13:55:00.000+08:00"Jawa-immigrant (but not pendatang) family"With al..."Jawa-immigrant (but not pendatang) family"<BR/><BR/>With all due respect, pendatang means pendatang-ler....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com