tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post6365380849109477938..comments2024-02-22T02:33:21.869+08:00Comments on Another Brick in the Wall: Eyeball to eyeball, But who blinked?A Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-40338573673109460962011-07-16T15:59:02.814+08:002011-07-16T15:59:02.814+08:00Najib erred big time for making an offer for stadi...Najib erred big time for making an offer for stadium and yet he couldnt deliver because it was unlawful to issue permit to a gaztted unlawful organisation.<br /><br />Now a precedent as been set. Since Bersih could have audience with Agung, Hindraf, CPM, Al Maunah, JI, etc can demand to see Agong.<br /><br />That is really a typical sleepy's touchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-64033978649500284352011-07-16T00:37:36.033+08:002011-07-16T00:37:36.033+08:00Not being apologetic , it is nothing to do with Um...Not being apologetic , it is nothing to do with Umno , nether about balls can think . The ' truth ' is relative . If you are lucky the truth will bring you peace .Ghabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949919662447400235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-90426657954251268472011-07-15T15:04:12.115+08:002011-07-15T15:04:12.115+08:00No doubt , Bersih has its political hidden agenda...No doubt , Bersih has its political hidden agenda represented by political parties . But their constructed series of ideas to gain political power has interfered the evolution of ' meant peace ' democracy and their assumed justice are the underlined objective . <br /><br />The direct and deliberate calls for street demonstration , protest , picket and boycott are the repertoire of their interpretation of democratic minds . It does not address the fundamental value of voting right stipulated in the democratic systems . Thus , it has encouraged adversarial relation between the Government and the majority of peaceful minds in the Malaysian society . In summary , the move was the non-calculated and undemocratic option for the democracy to prevail . <br /><br />Bersih should have taken the non deliberate action calls as its first option in considering the segregated minds of the ethnics fidgeted society . The core matter in questions , in due course to the Election Commissions could be address scientifically rather than mingling in with the ambiguity of rationality ,impartiality and knowledge . Instead , Bersih is willing to trade off the constitutional rights of Peace and Harmony for street demonstration engender violence . Bersih means to justify the means is an activated motive .<br /><br />It seems that Bersih has been sucked into the ideological biased favoring liberal conservatism to an extend of depressing peace and harmony over the parliamentary democracy . It overlooks that the divisions of being rational in turn of self interest , bargaining and negotiation demand amicably democratic minds by leadership . <br /><br />As the deliberative ideology being challenge , the physical deliberative action of street demonstration was also being challenged by water cannon and tear gas . This is the malice of ' Democracy ' with its generosity and nobility .Ghabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949919662447400235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-22020046692631899832011-07-15T15:01:55.047+08:002011-07-15T15:01:55.047+08:00The idea of an election is much more interesting t...The idea of an election is much more interesting to me than the election itself...The act of voting is in itself the defining moment.<br />Jeff Melvoin .<br /><br />In a modern democracy where perception is turned to realization of political norms and than hopefully reality . Certainly , is not illusory .<br /><br />Modern democracy has its long journey of historical development . Way back in the 5th century , some forms of primitive democracy exited and flourished . Then the importance and earliest known of democracy emerged around 508 BC under so-called Athenian democracy practicing from direct to representative democracy , in the evolution of democratic changes and changing still , till the present millennium . <br /><br />It involved a total participation of every societal segments in realization , in the right to vote , to achieve the best of a just institution of laws to govern the people , by the people throughout the centuries .<br /><br />We are still striving the meaning and the structuring for pure democratic idealism and ' justice ' . The fact is , we might not be able to achieve them ; nevertheless , the process of in tunneling democracy to its environmental best is a generosity . Yet , the attribution of modern democracy has been engendered by the barbaric acts of revolution , wars and the eruption of violent throughout history .<br /><br />One of the classic characteristics of shaping up the modern democracy is by deliberate action rather than the non-deliberate action . Deliberately , the street demonstration is an act to designate justification that the perception of unfairness and injustice stood up for public opinion . In fact , it was a stand off initial move of street revolution to take over the ' democratic ' Government of the day . In turn , the non-deliberate action as a significant option for prevailing democracy is totally ignored .<br /><br />Bersih has an extensive option and time to summon changes in the electorate procedures . Further negotiation with the Election Commission fell short after an only consciously call made by Bersih . Instead of engaging further negotiation , Bersih adamantly took to the streets . The choice for deliberate confrontational was imminent to take its course rather than the non-deliberate democratic option as a best choice and solution as cultivated one call for . Apparently , Bersih members led by an eccentric occultist and her members have voted with their feet in the move deliberately aimed to supersede the democratic Government .Ghabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949919662447400235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-27159947624681960812011-07-15T15:01:31.842+08:002011-07-15T15:01:31.842+08:00The idea of an election is much more interesting t...The idea of an election is much more interesting to me than the election itself...The act of voting is in itself the defining moment.<br />Jeff Melvoin .<br /><br />In a modern democracy where perception is turned to realization of political norms and than hopefully reality . Certainly , is not illusory .<br /><br />Modern democracy has its long journey of historical development . Way back in the 5th century , some forms of primitive democracy exited and flourished . Then the importance and earliest known of democracy emerged around 508 BC under so-called Athenian democracy practicing from direct to representative democracy , in the evolution of democratic changes and changing still , till the present millennium . <br /><br />It involved a total participation of every societal segments in realization , in the right to vote , to achieve the best of a just institution of laws to govern the people , by the people throughout the centuries .<br /><br />We are still striving the meaning and the structuring for pure democratic idealism and ' justice ' . The fact is , we might not be able to achieve them ; nevertheless , the process of in tunneling democracy to its environmental best is a generosity . Yet , the attribution of modern democracy has been engendered by the barbaric acts of revolution , wars and the eruption of violent throughout history .<br /><br />One of the classic characteristics of shaping up the modern democracy is by deliberate action rather than the non-deliberate action . Deliberately , the street demonstration is an act to designate justification that the perception of unfairness and injustice stood up for public opinion . In fact , it was a stand off initial move of street revolution to take over the ' democratic ' Government of the day . In turn , the non-deliberate action as a significant option for prevailing democracy is totally ignored .<br /><br />Bersih has an extensive option and time to summon changes in the electorate procedures . Further negotiation with the Election Commission fell short after an only consciously call made by Bersih . Instead of engaging further negotiation , Bersih adamantly took to the streets . The choice for deliberate confrontational was imminent to take its course rather than the non-deliberate democratic option as a best choice and solution as cultivated one call for . Apparently , Bersih members led by an eccentric occultist and her members have voted with their feet in the move deliberately aimed to supersede the democratic Government .Ghabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949919662447400235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-19058791513339747092011-07-15T12:55:17.668+08:002011-07-15T12:55:17.668+08:00How is SPR expected to push for electoral reform w...How is SPR expected to push for electoral reform without both sides agreeing and not politicise it? <br /><br />It needs 2/3 majorityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-6195938172042909182011-07-15T12:53:36.871+08:002011-07-15T12:53:36.871+08:00vinnan
Dont bother trying. I dont even bother re...vinnan <br /><br />Dont bother trying. I dont even bother reading your comment.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-49564158264527901452011-07-15T05:33:21.733+08:002011-07-15T05:33:21.733+08:00dendam kesumat..right,rough ride.
bersih..nonsens...dendam kesumat..right,rough ride.<br /><br />bersih..nonsense..blink again then u c.maaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02244786457802569917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-76861571318022547692011-07-15T03:07:08.263+08:002011-07-15T03:07:08.263+08:00at the end of the day of 9th July, nobody gain not...at the end of the day of 9th July, nobody gain nothing and the whole country loose a week's productivity.<br /><br />what a waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-16264188095984517012011-07-14T21:51:44.495+08:002011-07-14T21:51:44.495+08:00Brutus from within UMNO BARU waiting to take over ...Brutus from within UMNO BARU waiting to take over and also tumpang sekaki on BERSIH.<br /><br />Keep on dreaming cos, in the end Ceasar and his Rosemary will outflank you and get rid of all power hungry komunis like you.<br /><br />There is no permanant friend and foe in politics. Friends is when both interests merge and foes is when some have more interests than others.<br /><br />Guess some are still worried awaiting " The Return of Tun Dol and SIL" Tun Dol may want to still crush some bones for those who betrayed him in his overthrow. "Dendam Kesumat" tau tak?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-56469288297870837752011-07-14T20:55:28.638+08:002011-07-14T20:55:28.638+08:00Well said, Bro.
Yes, somebody not just blinked but...Well said, Bro.<br />Yes, somebody not just blinked but dozed for good.<br /><br />No need to demonize Bersih.<br />The Bersih lot may be fools but like Mathias Chang said<br /><br />"I have been informed that some of the Prime Minister’s close advisers on strategy are so-called experts on “Blue Ocean Strategy”, the essence of which is to “make the competition irrelevant and creating uncontested market place”.<br /><br />After the fiasco on 9th July 2011, may I suggest to the Prime Minister and the entire Barisan Nasional leadership that their first priority is to dump these political wannabes who are totally devoid of any knowledge and experience of the political realities on the ground."<br /><br />PENDEK kata, Rakyat dah tak takut and are very, very pissed.<br /><br />PENDEK KATA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-72968690240445002432011-07-14T18:25:04.103+08:002011-07-14T18:25:04.103+08:00Salam Tuan,
As always you give further insights. ...Salam Tuan,<br /><br />As always you give further insights. <br /><br />Tun Dol the flip-flop is now slip-slap by Ambiga.<br /><br />Warm regards<br />FreddieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02213358785917176883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-20857297297803874672011-07-14T15:55:46.613+08:002011-07-14T15:55:46.613+08:00@anon 2.36pm,
1. SPR has answered all of the BERS...@anon 2.36pm,<br /><br />1. SPR has answered all of the BERSIH items. All of them. Go find and read IT.<br /><br />2. You should know the limitation to SPR from the constitution. SPR hand is limited by the law. The only way is to make constitutional amendment. This has been said by SPR soooo many times.<br /><br />3. Now, the BIG question you should ask is... with the high number of oppositions in the parliament, why NO ONE from them since 2008 ask for constitutional amendment ? Why NO ONE table the bill in the parliament ?<br /><br />Can you think out of the box ?fikirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-9326462857929817132011-07-14T15:03:59.168+08:002011-07-14T15:03:59.168+08:00If Government keeps blinking, flip flopping and in...If Government keeps blinking, flip flopping and indecisive in crucial moments, respect and support from it's diehards will waver. Bersih expose that UMNO and Barisan Nasional is in dire need for leadership and the party need to be resolute to want to hold onto power!<br />I like that comment!angry birds gamehttp://angry-birds-game.angrybirds.imnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-23878463728420586072011-07-14T14:36:04.167+08:002011-07-14T14:36:04.167+08:00Govt Dept is always Govt Dept ... with SOP to be f...Govt Dept is always Govt Dept ... with SOP to be followed ... only the big Boss would deviate a bit.<br /><br />As mentioned 4 out of the 8 items mentions by Bersih are not under SPR ... so the other 4 are !!!<br /><br />Why can't these be addresssed ASAP so that there would be no street demo ?<br /><br />Why can't SPR answers all allegations by PR on the spot so that there would be no doubt by the Rakyat on SPR ?<br /><br />Why can't SPR database be synchronised to JPN database so that issues could be addressed and solved ASAP ?<br /><br />Why can't SPR advise PM/Parliment on current weaknesses and ways to resolved them ?<br /><br />Thinking out of the Box and using IT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com