tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post7043734618478461336..comments2024-02-22T02:33:21.869+08:00Comments on Another Brick in the Wall: Lucrative Bounty From HistoryA Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-53374605479960390632007-12-16T20:43:00.000+08:002007-12-16T20:43:00.000+08:00Anonymous sebagai kritikan kepada Samynovelo,...Anonymous sebagai kritikan kepada Samynovelo, menyatakan istilah pariah adalah untuk merujuk golongan yang tidak ikut agama dan yang makan babi dan lembu dalam masyarakat India. Kalau saya tidak silap golongan ini sebenarnya dianggap mempunyai status sosia yang rendah dan tidak termasuk dalam mana-mana kasta dari empat kasta dalam masyarakat Hindu (Brahim,Kastria, Petani dan Peniaga). Salah satu perkerjaan mereka ia lah membuat gendang dan gendang selalu daripada kulit lembu. Ini sebabnya mereka makan daging lembu. Mereka kini dipanggil Harijan dan istilah pariah tidak lagi digunakan. Harijan juga ada agama dan kepercayaan. Mereka menyembah Datuk tempatan seperti Datuk Murugam. Saya harap pandangan ini boleh diterima.tetapi jika ada komen saya sedia terima mana yang lebih tepat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-70549834515881899112007-12-07T11:00:00.000+08:002007-12-07T11:00:00.000+08:00Is there a pot of gold from suing? Or a pile of a...Is there a pot of gold from suing? Or a pile of ashes?<BR/><BR/>There certainly is a case for suing the Brits, maybe!<BR/><BR/>They left too many loose screws in our heads, our grandma's and grandad's. Well there are screws already or about to be turned on our kids tops. Didn't Winsted warn them, us? Or did he?<BR/><BR/>Imagine who's doing it, now!<BR/><BR/>But on what basis to kick the Brits a's'ses? Trespas or simply imperialism?<BR/><BR/>It's curious that when the Brits whacked North American natives to escape from, prosecution from piggishness and godliness, from their homeland and thereafter stole others lands, they thought those redskins were Indians. Other Europeans saw no one else in south America but "Indians". The Spaniards must have been confused by these natives whether they should belong to a "state" or a "race". God, they couldn't figure out a "consitution" just yet then.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yet Indians still call themselves Indians! <BR/><BR/>At least the Hindraf's UK trained lawyer does. Why he wasn't trained in the "Hind" but the UK, is another ardous story. Bloody Brits are funny. They came to the "Hind" first and they recognised Indians! <BR/><BR/>To cut a long painful story short, we could, as suggested, finally end up suing ourselves! <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, maybe that's what we should not do. We should not do what the first white Americans, North or South or elswhere do. <BR/><BR/>How exactly? I'm trying to loosen the screws on my head. My kids heads are full of loose screws, mostly Philips Screws! Are yours, too?<BR/><BR/>Yeah! I know! Don't screw myslef!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-90900057780629575882007-12-07T10:10:00.000+08:002007-12-07T10:10:00.000+08:00For whatever its worth:I think; sustainable democr...For whatever its worth:<BR/><BR/>I think; sustainable democratic institutions require a stable separation of church/mosque/temple from state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-71801140048991182232007-12-07T07:35:00.000+08:002007-12-07T07:35:00.000+08:00passerby - thats good observation but sufficiently...passerby - thats good observation but sufficiently serious flaw to be of relevance in guiding any serious decisions and opinions.<BR/><BR/>arun - Eyes and ears have limited scape. At times, it sees and hears what it wants. Not many can see the big and broad pixture. The constitution has a balance of Malay/Muslim righst and non Malays/muslim interest for fairness and equality. As usual, something gets cock up along the way. <BR/><BR/>beranikeranabenar - setuju bahawa blame game tidak menyelesaikan masaalah. Tidak salah sesiapa yg mempunyai pandangan dan pendapat yg berisi dan baik utk menyumbang kepada perbincangan. Mungkin ada solution yang boleh diperolehi. <BR/><BR/>anak malaysia - what a beutiful comment ... see beranikeranabenar? I will republish this as a posting. <BR/><BR/>samynovalue - interesting view but is lost in exchanges with anons and skay becasue of somewhat derogatory strong words used. Budi bahasa budaya kita orang Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>johnchan - agree with you there, totally!A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-68811606777039166762007-12-06T19:14:00.000+08:002007-12-06T19:14:00.000+08:00samynovelu seems to be an uneducated fanatic boyan...samynovelu seems to be an uneducated fanatic boyan malay. Most likely born to malay without common sense. His knowledge seems to be shallow. Definitely born for a one nite stand bohsia.umnoputrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14239477708761066768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-91782942957768720272007-12-06T17:04:00.000+08:002007-12-06T17:04:00.000+08:00I think the marginalization is true in some extent...I think the marginalization is true in some extent, but the Government should take action or effort to look into the plight of this group of people. Hindraf has no justification whatsoever to stage a protest which resulted in 30 people arrested and disrupted the public peace. If their claim is justifiable, then Malay and Chinese can also take action against British Government, and whole Malaysia will be in chaos.Marginalization is maybe the Malaysian Government is praticing unproductive policy which only benefits certain group of elites in the society. See the link http://economicsandpolitics.blogspot.com/ for article about economic policies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-74665468770497452752007-12-06T14:49:00.000+08:002007-12-06T14:49:00.000+08:00With malice to none and charity to all", said Pres...With malice to none and charity to all", said President Abraham Lincoln. With that in mind and with fear for none and fairness for all, let me share my personal feelings, as an Indian Tamil in general and a Malaysian in particular.<BR/><BR/>Malaysia is called swarnabhumi (heavenly land) by the ancient Indians because this land is like the United States ,a land of hope and dream. The United States gave hopes to the diverse people of Europe - the English, the German, Greek, Italians, Scandinavians, and Russians, whilst, Malaysia laid the same path for the people of Asia - Malays, Indians, Chinese, Arabs and Eurasians. If only Malaysia is let to be the same the old swarnabhumi – the land of opportunity, we can continue seeking and fulfilling our dreams and hopes.<BR/><BR/>Aftermath articles that bombard our emails and our group, may differ in approach and writing but echoes one common voice; that is to give the natural citizens of this "swarnabhumi " the due respect, irrespective of color, creed and race.<BR/><BR/>This basic respect is commonly seen exchanged freely with lots of love by the common people who dwell and work together; going about with their daily affairs towards a common goal of happiness for their family and loved ones. Get in to a cab and have a quick discussion with the driver, weather they are Malay, Chinese or Indian; you will know and feel the common link.<BR/><BR/>These is the natural calling by all religious teachings of the world, be it Islam, Hindu, Christian or Buddhist. The Almighty God has laid down in the Holy Quran: "O mankind, we have created you from a male and female." In other words all human beings are brothers to one another. They all are the descendants from one father and one mother. "And we set you up as nations and tribes so that you may be able to recognize each other" (49:13). This means that the division of human beings into nations, races, groups and tribes is for the sake of distinction, so that people of one race or tribe may meet and be acquainted with the people belonging to another race or tribe and cooperate with one another.<BR/><BR/>How can I say I love my child dearly but do not feel for another child being raped and killed by a ruthless killer? That child may be a child of a Malay parent with different background. The common factor of parenthood bonds me with that child and her family, thus evoking my soul to feel the pain of a parent.<BR/><BR/>How can I say I love my own siblings and parents but do not feel for another person hit and run by a bad driver? In fact, it has personally happened to me when I gave my shoulders for support to a badly injured Muslim, a Malay wife of another. While her husband was settling issues with another motorist who happens to be the `same clan' like himself, I gave support to the greatly in pain lady. Took her to my car to be attended by my wife and I came back to put sense to the arguing husbands. After which, I took all three of them to a nearest clinic for treatment.<BR/><BR/>Was my doing unique and heroic? No, it is a common thing that any Malaysians will do and are doing on a daily basis in our lovely "swarnabhumi" home of Malaysia . What this home is lacking (sad to say) is a good and caring genuine parent. Family they say is,"Father and Mother I Love you". A good and caring family with loving family members is normally headed by a like minded loving and caring parents who are willing to sacrifice for the love of their family.<BR/><BR/>I care a damn who heads this wonderful nation. But I do care that, that head has the qualities of a loving parent who runs this family with a "love all and hurt none" attitude. I love the head to use all avenues available to protect and nurture the love amongst his children. If there is pain in anyone of his children, his heart must bleed. The Big Bad wolf who pretended to be the grandma in Little Red Riding Hood had big ears but it lacked the heart that matters most. That cost its live at the end of an axe. <BR/><BR/>What this nation needs is not a pretender as such but a true parent who works from the heart-a parent who walks his talk and really attends ("hadiri") to all his children and grandchildren needs and woes, irrespective of their size and outlook.A head who knows that what the children coming from diverse background have a belief system entrenched in them since childhood which they cherish most. This FAITH (Fully Absorbed in Their Heart) is their very own inner personal belonging which they will treasure most. What they treasure most is their own symbol of love which they will not want another to destroy. A car whether it is a simple Proton owned by poor person or a luxurious Mercedes owned by a very rich person; both are but symbols that will be cherished and protected by them, respectively.<BR/><BR/>The same goes to a child who has been entrenched by a symbol of worship – weather it is a simple stone, a small temple, a big temple, a Church or a Masjid. This place of worship that they have FULLY ABSORBED IN THEIR HEART (FAITH) must be respected and protected by the siblings and parents of the family. <BR/><BR/>These basic rights and respect of the children of this nation from all walks of lives, color and creed must be upheld by the "parents appointed" by the children even though this parenthood maybe short lived for 5 years and not a lifetime. The duration is determined if the parent has a true loving vision (matalamat) for the children and not just for riches of the children (mata duitan).<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day, when the dust settles down, what our inner heart is longing for is a lap of a mother where we can rest our head in peace.<BR/><BR/>Always a longing child,<BR/>anak_malaysiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-7259124650132365572007-12-05T18:18:00.000+08:002007-12-05T18:18:00.000+08:00malays never had any solidarity.......their sultan...malays never had any solidarity.......their sultans have prostituted them in the past and now umno under the NEP banner continues to prostitute them......rather then choose to fight for dignity, they take the easy way out by pouring their anger to the chinese and indians......;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-39848457659556839532007-12-05T16:22:00.000+08:002007-12-05T16:22:00.000+08:00Hi Samynovelo,Istilah pariah adalah untuk golongan...Hi Samynovelo,<BR/><BR/>Istilah pariah adalah untuk golongan yang tidak ikut agama dan yang makan babi dan lembu di India. Kalau sedemikian hang kalu makan lembu memang pariah... semua yang makan lembu memang pariah.....jgn terlalu emosi ya!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-8172638046735766352007-12-05T15:45:00.000+08:002007-12-05T15:45:00.000+08:00hii malaysia!erm sebenarnya sy mmg tak suka kutuk ...hii malaysia!<BR/>erm sebenarnya sy mmg tak suka kutuk org sbb sy tak suka blame sesiapa bila berlaku sesuatu yg tak betul! si mamat yg mengunakan nick samynovelu tue pun sy ingat salah seorg yg suka menyalahkan org lain kerana idupnya yg gagal! nick yg dia gunakan pun menunjukkan kepariahan dia! kemungkinan dia adalah seorng penagih dadah, perogol, perompak negara seperti org2 BN tue! ataupun kononya mungkin dia berlakon seperti org alim! sorry ni mungkin kemungkinan! sbb dia ceritakan kemungkinan dia dan sy menceritakan kemungkinan sy! apabila seseorg pemalas, perogol, perasuah, perompak mengatakan ttg bangsa lain sy rasa seelok-eloknya dia betulkan diri dia sebelum memberi komen pasal bangsa lain! sila siasat bangsa mana yg paling teruk dan terhina dimata masyarakat malaysia serta dunia jika kita tanya pasal malaysia! kemungkinan artikal ni pun kemungkinan penulis dan sebagai pembaca kemungkinan ni bole kita anggap sebagai kemungkinan sahaja sbb pada tanggapan sy tidak ada org yg layak tuk memberi jawapan yg betul kat sini atau mana2 blog! semua kemungkinan ni pasal politikus masing2!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-77785282594920330882007-12-05T15:15:00.000+08:002007-12-05T15:15:00.000+08:00Please do not poke fault, just press the govt. to ...Please do not poke fault, just press the govt. to do the needful and bring all the races to par by ensuring balance placement in all sectors. Shun all that encourage racial discrimination. At this time, the Indians are the most affected. Your eyes and ears are exposed to the reality of this truth. I guarantee the Malays/Chinese folks by helping your Indian brothers/sister you will derive immense benefit as we have derived from each other. Thosai,Rendang and Char Kouy Tew have made Malaysia a great country of culinary delights. There are hidden talents dormants amongst the marginalized..please I urge all to be a catalyst in bringing them out thru' more 'universally oriented'schools, qualtity jobs and affordable/free health-care so that they may focus on positive strenghts rather than fall prey into forlorn depressionArun Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06823013253476797604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-15851663779794351342007-12-05T14:49:00.000+08:002007-12-05T14:49:00.000+08:00need to tell samynovelu smthing:By the way u r put...need to tell samynovelu smthing:<BR/><BR/>By the way u r putting those caste calling into people, i can see how the malays think..if the malays are really rational thinkers, then what kind of malay is this samynovelu? what rights does he have to categorize others into caste that he/she can't even comprehend. kalau org melayu pergi rumah orang india, pernah dia hidangkan makanan tak halal? kalau org india pergi rumah orang melayu, pernah dia tak hidangkan lembu? hehe..fikirkan lah, siapa yang pariah ni...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-73480184213144754312007-12-05T12:52:00.000+08:002007-12-05T12:52:00.000+08:00Antara Melayu, Cina dan India siapa yang pandai da...Antara Melayu, Cina dan India siapa yang pandai dan siapa pula yang tertindas?<BR/><BR/>Melayu adalah kaum yang paling malang di Malaysia. Cina pula merupakan kaum yang paling berjaya dalam semua perkara. Manakala India adalah kaum yang sentiasa kelihatan berjaya tetapi hakikatnya mereka hanyalah ahu...ahu aje.<BR/><BR/>Melayu betul-betul menerima nasib seperti lebai malang. Mereka asyik mempertahankan kuasa mereka yang ada hinggakan mereka tidak mampu meneruskan perjuangan yang selari dengan tuntutan semasa. Lebih malang lagi bila mereka cuba menonjolkan diri mereka sudah berjaya dan kononnya berfikiran global walaupun hakikatnya mereka berbohong pada bangsa mereka. Pada masa yang sama mereka terpaksa menekan mana-mana pemimpin yang cuba berubah dari pemikiran 'katak bawah tempurung mereka'. <BR/><BR/>Ada sebilangan pemimpin Melayu memang tidak berkemampuan untuk memimpin tetapi disebabkan sikap kaum itu terlalu dogmatik pada kepercayaan kaumnya sendiri, maka nasib Melayu tetap tidak berubah. Betapa malang nasib yang menimpa mereka, mereka masih tetap memberikan peluang kepada pemimpin-pemimpin sedemikian dengan harapan nasib mereka akan berubah seperti yang didakwa mereka sebagai telah ditakdirkan.<BR/><BR/>Manakala kaum Cina yang sentiasa berfikiran terbuka dalam apa juga keadaan dan sentiasa berusaha menyesuaikan keadaan semasa telah memberikan kaum tersebut satu impak yang begitu positif dalam iklim masyarakat berbilang kaum di Malaysia. Tindakan kaum Cina sentiasa berdasarkan justifikasi. Jarang mereka bertindak mengikut emosi. Barangkali disebabkan kurangnya sikap terlalu kuat beragama dikalangan kaum Cina, mereka lebih mudah diterima oleh mana-mana kaum di Malaysia, terutamanya Melayu. Jarang sekali, malah mungkin tidak pernah berlaku, orang Cina membuat apa-apa bantahan berkaitan agama. Tindakan mereka lebih bersifat universal kerana mereka lebih terdorong pada hal-hal kewangan yang tentunya sesuatu yang sentiasa dimahukan oleh sesiapa sahaja penghuni di atas dunia ini.<BR/><BR/>Tidak seperti kaum India yang sentiasa membuat berbagai kerenah. Walaupun jumlah mereka tidak seramai mana, mereka tetap dapat menampakkan kepada dunia seolah-olah mereka cukup ramai di Malaysia. Seperti tongkang keling pecah, kata bidalan Melayu sudah cukup mengambarkan sikap kaum India. malah kalau dilihat apa yang digambarkan dalam filem hindustan, memanglah kaum India di Malaysia sekarang tidak ada bezanya dengan sikap kaum mereka dimana-mana muka bumi ini. Mereka memang bangsa kaku. Mereka tidak akan berubah walaupun mereka sudah berada ditempat yang lain. Mungkin keadaan ini hanyalah berlaku pada keturunan mereka yang terendah, iaitu kasta pariah. Kebetulan kaum India di Malaysia sekarang memang berketurunan pariah yang dibawa British ke Tanah Melayu dulu. Sayang sekali, keturunan India dari kasta pariah ini tidak dapat menyesuaikan diri mereka hinggakan sesiapa sahaja akan tahu bahawa mereka memang jenis kaum terendah dari semua aspek kehidupan. Tindakan Hindraf adalah manisfestasi sikap kepariahan mereka.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-13579761361602988302007-12-05T08:23:00.000+08:002007-12-05T08:23:00.000+08:00all i want is the love below ;Dall i want is the love below ;DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-10957781991871433882007-12-05T08:22:00.000+08:002007-12-05T08:22:00.000+08:00i need my stuff ;Di need my stuff ;DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-8413209089442184392007-12-04T21:15:00.000+08:002007-12-04T21:15:00.000+08:00raja is an indian word lah bro...;)tks (?) for the...raja is an indian word lah bro...;)<BR/><BR/>tks (?) for the plug ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com