tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post911026206737396840..comments2024-02-22T02:33:21.869+08:00Comments on Another Brick in the Wall: PPSMI: Dr Mahathir's poll gets more votesA Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-83219867307456253452009-07-16T19:30:26.380+08:002009-07-16T19:30:26.380+08:00susah2 sangat isu PPSMI tu, dwibahsa kan jer la ta...susah2 sangat isu PPSMI tu, dwibahsa kan jer la tak pun multi lingual. hehehetooth-toothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-7722151838796665422009-07-13T22:16:54.260+08:002009-07-13T22:16:54.260+08:00FRIEND CAM BECOME ENEMY,
ENEMY CAN BECOME FRIEND,
...FRIEND CAM BECOME ENEMY,<br />ENEMY CAN BECOME FRIEND,<br />MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA<br />HEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHECHAIRMAN KAGAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14080452928632301766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-20054922033663265272009-07-13T21:21:38.787+08:002009-07-13T21:21:38.787+08:00Wenger
Nice of you to defend that officer.
Unfo...Wenger<br /><br />Nice of you to defend that officer. <br /><br />Unfortunately, that chap hates KJ and Tingkat 4.<br /><br />I am just teaching him a basic of Internet democrasy. Don't fuckin' impose your will on Bloggers.<br /><br />Wonder if you will react the way you react agst Tony F now that you know he hates KJ.A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-18503584422755300352009-07-13T15:23:19.148+08:002009-07-13T15:23:19.148+08:00wenger has no stand whatsoever except parroting KJ...wenger has no stand whatsoever except parroting KJ's words.<br /><br />as adik shamsyul's story is a fiction (KJ never made that speech), the arguments he wrote in that articles are superfluous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-18760723494400686442009-07-13T10:56:07.873+08:002009-07-13T10:56:07.873+08:00I support Vinnan's sentiment. I'm Malay. I...I support Vinnan's sentiment. I'm Malay. I'm educated overseas. I'm working in a GLC. I'm disappointed with the monoligualism.<br /><br /><br />:(<br /><br /><br />I'm not too worried though. I'm convinced the Malay language will be antiquated in a generation's time. You can't stop kids from watching MTV. You can't stop kids from idolising Western stars. You certainly can't stop the Internet. <br /><br />Lastly, you can't stop the "per-mutasi" of the language. LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-53308440293154964712009-07-13T00:53:16.918+08:002009-07-13T00:53:16.918+08:00Now Utusan Malaysia has entered into the picture. ...Now Utusan Malaysia has entered into the picture. Here's the poll results (at this time of writing) of the three sites:<br /><br />Utusan Malaysia:<br />Yes - 8,429 votes (72.0%)<br />No - 3,069 votes (26.2%)<br />Don't Care (Tak Kisah) - 203 (1.7%)<br />Total Votes - 11,701<br /><br />Tun Mahathir's Blog:<br />Yes - 10,577 votes (14%)<br />No - 64,230 votes (86%)<br />Total Votes - 74,807<br /><br />Nobisha's Blog:<br />Yes - 176 votes (48%)<br />No - 194 votes (52%)<br />Total Votes - 370<br /><br />I'm tempted to total up the votes of all three sites but they may not reflect the true voting patterns - not knowing the voters' composition (low-income, middle-income, etc), duplication of votes (some may have voted in more than one sites), etc. etc. But bearing in mind these limitations, let's do it anyway<br /><br />Total for all sites:<br />Yes - 19,182 votes (22%)<br />No - 67,493 votes (78%)<br />Don't Care - N/A<br />Total Votes - 86,878<br /><br />You can draw your own conclusion. Will it end the polemics? I doubt it. Arguments for and against the poll results will persist, e.g. pro-government stance of Utusan, pro-Mahathir bias in Tun's blog poll, inadequate sample size in Nobisha's poll, etc. For sure, Utusan's headline will scream "YES to scrapping PPSMI" when the polls end.<br /><br />How do we end the polemics and find a closure. Referendum? Many bloggers have already suggested this. But will the government be willing to do it? Your guess is as good as mine. Our reasoning is simple: the education and future of our children is at stake. And if bloggers who are concerned about the issue can unite and collectively pressure the government, then who knows...?<br /><br />As blogger Mind No Evil puts it forcefully, we are "messing up our future generation".Alizulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682894117881880049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-90985795032453061592009-07-12T22:38:03.338+08:002009-07-12T22:38:03.338+08:00Wenger J. Khairy,
Thereis nothing to be proud of ...Wenger J. Khairy,<br /><br />Thereis nothing to be proud of about Malay Civilisation since it contribute nothing to the advancement of science. Majority of the malays have been in the clutches of peasantry for too long already. Science and technology will free the malays from the clutches of peasantry. Pencinta sastera of course love peasantry, because malay arts and culture revolves around malay peasantry. Young malays should be exposed to science from the early age...the ripe moment to trigger inquisitive minds. The age of reasons are dawning upon the malays in this millenium when PPSMI was implemented in 2003. When Muhyiddin and Puad announced the abolishment of PPSMI.The malays are denied again to free themselves from the clutches of peasantry. Well they did that just to appease the lust of the pencinta sastera melayu. Thus, by forbidding the malay to learn science and mathematics in english will always reminds them that they are still peasant (jangan lupa daratan).<br /><br />Nik Rahimah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-13450326460554818742009-07-12T14:46:23.857+08:002009-07-12T14:46:23.857+08:00Dear Voice,
Well there are some parts of this pos...Dear Voice,<br /><br />Well there are some parts of this posting, I do feel quite uncomfortable about. If this gentleman had sent an SMS, whatever the contents, it should not be forwarded to all and sundry. People sometimes speak out of turn due to their sheer frustration. I do hope people do give him the benefit of doubt, and for the said individual concerned, perhaps he should exercise greater discretion in choosing his friends / contacts.<br /><br />Now to the main event regarding this whole PPSMI issue. <br /><br />I am with the Government on this one, a hundred percent. I have posted a great deal on why PPSMI should be abolished, taking into account the plight of the poor and marginalized rural students over here: <a href="http://wengerkhairy.blogspot.com/2009/07/erste-gesetz-der-bewegung.html" rel="nofollow"> Adik Shamshyul's plight</a><br /><br />I see that the Pro PPSMI faction have offered not a single fact to back up their argument. In what way has the performance of students in Science and Maths improved since the introduction of PPSMI? In every single study, the performance has deteriorated. That's a fact. What more do we want.<br /><br />And then the pro PPSMI faction say, oh we should improve the implementation. In what way? Are they saying that they are much better than the Education Ministry? They have more experience in this issue? Do they not know, that we are overnight changing the way we are supposed to teach millions of children <b>without even checking to see whether we can change the way thousands of teachers teach.</b><br /><br />I am quite surprised with your stand on this. I always took it for granted that when issues that impinge on our culture and our sovereignty, you would support the more stringent intepretation. Not to say, that I would necessarily agree, but at least I know, this point has some basis. But alas, as the poor young official found out, sometimes it could be a case of more smoke and mirrors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-23058666574503178462009-07-12T12:26:14.084+08:002009-07-12T12:26:14.084+08:00poll tersebut tak mencerminkan keseluruhan malaysi...poll tersebut tak mencerminkan keseluruhan malaysia.aku punya pendirianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16995549823547543286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-53317486690978568652009-07-12T11:27:49.644+08:002009-07-12T11:27:49.644+08:00Vinnan
Can't you ever discuss anything specif...Vinnan<br /><br />Can't you ever discuss anything specifically, maturely without being rhetorical, insulting and provoking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-12999741478444992042009-07-12T07:01:09.191+08:002009-07-12T07:01:09.191+08:00vinnan - the pseudo intellect cum psychotic
the w...vinnan - the pseudo intellect cum psychotic<br /><br />the world superpower americans are mostly monolinguals<br /><br />their economy is in shambles<br /><br />their financial situation is full of corruption<br /><br />they lead in carbon prints<br /><br />UMNO is patriotic (not racist)<br /><br />you are <br /><br />friendly advice - go seek a shrink and be happy ever after<br /><br />whether you like it or not, the Malays will reclaim their birthright which is this TANAH MELAYU<br /><br />read Semerah Padi ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-71102499072657475502009-07-12T06:45:34.379+08:002009-07-12T06:45:34.379+08:00SSS + PPSMI = 1MalaysiaSSS + PPSMI = 1MalaysiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-38762473567475738902009-07-11T22:56:51.402+08:002009-07-11T22:56:51.402+08:00Voiceyyyyyyyyy,
On the eve of Najib's 100th d...Voiceyyyyyyyyy,<br /><br />On the eve of Najib's 100th days in office, I wailed (meratapi) in sorrow upon hearing that next generation malays will be denied to learn science and mathematics in english at Sekolah Kebangsaan. What???? closed door policy on next generation malay ability to rapidly acquired scientific knowledge. Ada udang disebalik batu kah...Is the ruling elites afraid of the growth of knowledgeable middle class malays? I equate the the abolishing of the PPSMI to that of the Manchus Chings Dynasty implemantation of the China Closed door policy during China's 17th century.<br /><br />Nik RahmahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-32585328516482742602009-07-11T22:12:22.250+08:002009-07-11T22:12:22.250+08:00Yes. This isn't about politics but its about e...Yes. This isn't about politics but its about educating our young ones...lowincomrdudehttp://lowincomedude.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-70211067579536937682009-07-11T20:42:28.535+08:002009-07-11T20:42:28.535+08:00Nobisha is also conducting a poll on this decision...Nobisha is also conducting a poll on this decision at his blog. The latest figures are 52% NO, 47% YES. This means 52% are against the decision so far. Although the results are much closer than those of Tun Mahathir's poll, they still show that more people prefer English.<br /><br />The government seems to stand firm on its decision, while bloggers who support the decision are celebrating and showering praises on our leaders. But has the government ever conducted such a poll, through, for example, the blogs of our leaders or leaders of component parties? Not that I know of. There was a call for a referendum by a few bloggers before but the government remained silent. Wouldn't such a poll or referendum be far more reflective of the people's voice? It would no doubt be costly, but since the issue affects the future of our children, the benefits would definitely outweigh the cost.<br /><br />In addition, if the decision to scrap PPSMI was politically motivated, will it provides a 100% guarantee that the anti-government and on-the-fence voters will swing their votes back to BN? What if the pro-PPMSI voters swing their votes to the opposition or choose not to vote at all? In the end, where do we place the rakyat - we and our future generations? What is the meaning of "1Malaysia = Rakyat Didahulukan", other than being a mere, empty slogan?<br /><br />You are right A Voice, taking a position on PPSMI has got nothing to do with support or non-support of the government. We should take it on a issue-to-issue basis. I've been pro-government since I was in school but that does not mean I should not criticise issues that are deserving of criticism. Before the advent of internet, there was little or no avenues to air our grievances. Now we do. And the government should regard us - bloggers and internet-savvy citizens - not as a liability but as assets that have the capability to contribute to the nation.Alizulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682894117881880049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-72105984081601832532009-07-11T19:50:00.324+08:002009-07-11T19:50:00.324+08:00Thanks to UMNO' short-sighted racist thinking,...Thanks to UMNO' short-sighted racist thinking, non-Malay kids will forever maintain a multi-lingual edge over Malay kids in general. The world of the government servants and GLCs are already unable to absorb all the mono-lingual dolts from the public universities not that it is the fault of the Malays here. What is UMNO going to do with these perpetually increasing unemployed graduates. Askar Wataniah, anyone/<br />Zig-zagging educational policies are a surefire way to screw up the future of our children. Anyone who is/was in the educational field can tell you this. The only one who does not seem to know this is Najis who pretends he knows how to be a PM,<br /> <br />The decision to implement and eventually discontinue the PPSMI is based on UMNO Dulu, Kini dan Selamanya Ketuanan Shit. How does it feel to see UMNO f['[ing up the future of Malay kids again. UMNO is nothing but a bunch of irresponsible b;';[='. By the way if you UMNO clowns think I am happy to see Malays suffer, you people are sadly mistaken. I too have Malay friends and I truly pity their kids.vinnannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-63994250280913799942009-07-11T17:57:13.281+08:002009-07-11T17:57:13.281+08:00MACAM BAGUS JE SI FERIZ OMAR TUUU..
hahahah dia i...MACAM BAGUS JE SI FERIZ OMAR TUUU..<br /><br />hahahah dia ingat kita tak tahu dia sapa...<br /><br />kaki bodek nombor satu... (cuma kalau kena dgn matlamat dia la)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-77294777981802062632009-07-11T15:53:02.843+08:002009-07-11T15:53:02.843+08:00Well said The Voice.
I'm happy to see the pol...Well said The Voice.<br /><br />I'm happy to see the poll's result and I hope the government will take note of it. It's true that labelling those who support PPSMI as anti-govt are childish and immature act. Like TDM we just expressing our thoughts in the correct way instead of going to the street like some fools and creates all sort of trouble. Salam...MNBhttp://malaysiannewsblog.whizz.net.in/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-57932139036181884492009-07-11T15:20:35.234+08:002009-07-11T15:20:35.234+08:00Voice
Kalau begitu jadinya dan telatah penguasa y...Voice<br /><br />Kalau begitu jadinya dan telatah penguasa yang dikatakan oleh Voice serta dengan Polls yang dikendalikan oleh Dr M (yang lebih Arif dari PM dan DPM) maka tak ada gunanya diadakan KPI. <br />Diharap jangan pula rakyat menuduh kerajaan ini kerajaan KBT. Kalau kita tak mau pandang atau dengar yang sebenarnya kita akan di tuduh Buta dan Tuli.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Joe BlackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-85386943532293214572009-07-11T14:45:18.418+08:002009-07-11T14:45:18.418+08:00Pejuang bahasa adalah wayang kulit negara. Mereka ...Pejuang bahasa adalah wayang kulit negara. Mereka menperjuangan kulit tapi tertingal isi nya.<br />Bagai anjing menyalak bulan malang nya bulan tak jatuh jatuh juga. Itu lah apa yang di perjaungkan oleh GMP dan para chauvanist. Bagi saya 'LANTAK LAH' saya tak perlu risau pasal generasi akan datang sebab saya masih bujang dan mungkin akan bujang selama lama nya. Yang empunya anak anak buka lah mata anda dan jangan jadi katak bawah tempurung. Lihat lah dunia diatas tempurung.antubiulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05121825260324922330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-59268359196767911002009-07-11T14:10:46.623+08:002009-07-11T14:10:46.623+08:00Does the BN government dare to hold
a referendum o...Does the BN government dare to hold<br />a referendum on this issue?<br />I'm not too sure.JUST VIEWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07436198717636448776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-22257239674248332232009-07-11T11:59:59.712+08:002009-07-11T11:59:59.712+08:00Daee .. semua orang bertenang-lah! Mengapa buat bi...Daee .. semua orang bertenang-lah! Mengapa buat bising tentang isu yang sebenarnya bukan "isu"?!<br /><br />So what if the teaching of Maths and Science reverts back to using Bahasa Melayu and other vernacular languages. What's the big fuss? The children are still getting educated aren't they?<br /><br />If parents are concerned that their children may not acquire a competent command of the English language, these parents can always send their children for remedial tuition to upgrade their offsprings' mastery of the language.<br /><br />I on my part sacrifice a few hours a week of my time giving the neighbourhood kids free tuition in English. I think of it as my contribution to "national service". You people out there, if you feel so strongly about the matter, why not do something similar. It isn't that difficult, nor does it require one to be in the teaching profession in order to do so. Just recall what your teacher did when you were in school and then do the same. With some common sense that should work satisfactorily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-44347633491581839202009-07-11T11:57:54.188+08:002009-07-11T11:57:54.188+08:00Saudara,
Maakan saya kerana lari tajuk. Tapi ingi...Saudara,<br /><br />Maakan saya kerana lari tajuk. Tapi ingin menyatakan komen saya yang saya juga muatkan di laman citra yang lain. Saya rasa komen ini ada juga relevannya dengan artikel Saudara yang sebelum ini dalam membincang nasib anak bangsa. Izinkan saya.<br /><br />"NEGARA INI NEGARA BERDAULAT"<br /><br />Semerah Padi.<br /><br />_________________<br /><br />Saudara,<br /><br />Saya terasa kerdil untuk berbuat apa-apa mengenai isu yang telah saudara utarakan. Saya hanya mampu bersuara untuk mengucapkan terima kasih kerana berkongsi dengan kami. Saya bukan pakar untuk berhujah dengan “pakar-pakar” yang terpilih itu, apabila lagi dengan Perdana Menteri sendiri.<br /><br />Mungkin saya cuma boleh bersuara begini saja:-<br /><br />Kepada Kerajaan Malaysia yang diketuai oleh Perdana Menteri, saya rayu agar baliklah semula ke perkara pokok kerana Malaysia adalah di dalam kemelut yang tidak jelas hujung pangkalnya ketika ini. Pokok pangkalnya adalah (bagi saya):-<br /><br />1. Rukun Negara<br /><br />2. Perlembagaan Persekutuan<br /><br />3. Sejarah Malaysia yang asalnya Tanah Melayu<br /><br />4. Orang Melayu – majoriti penduduk di Semenanjung<br /><br />5. Pribumi – majoriti penduduk di Sabah & Sarawak.<br /><br />Saya tidak rasa perkara-perkara asas di atas di ambil peduli oleh kerajaan kerana:-<br /><br />1. Lihatlah apa jadinya dengan Bahasa Kebangsaan Malaysia<br /><br />2. Lihatlah bagaimana penduduk majoriti dilayan dibandingkan dengan yang minoriti<br /><br />3. Lihatlah bagaimana orang Melayu bila hendak bersuara sedikit<br /><br />4. Lihatlah siapa-siapa yang dok di atas “kepuk padi”. Apa jadi dengan “pelahap-pelahap rakus” yang “memukul habis” kekayaan negara tanpa menghiraukan nasib bangsa dan negara demi ketamakan masing-masing?<br /><br />Apa kerajaan masih membuta tuli lagi? Melentur buluh biarlah dari rebungnya. Tapi Menteri Pelajaran menolak mentah-mentah usaha-usaha pembentukan negara dan anak bangsa ini yang hendak diterapkan melalui <a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/kempen-satu-sekolah-untuk-semua" rel="nofollow"> KEMPEN SATU SEKOLAH UNTUK SEMUA</a> yang lebih bercirikan negara Malaysia yang sejati.<br /><br />Tolonglah sampaikan luahan ini kepada yang berkenaan.<br /><br />“Bumi ini Bumi TANAH MELAYU”<br /><br />Semerah PadiSemerah Padinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19741162.post-3088986025529570702009-07-11T11:17:35.958+08:002009-07-11T11:17:35.958+08:00Bro, good point, lets have final closure on this s...Bro, good point, lets have final closure on this sorry mess in our education system, let the people decide lets have a referundum to decide on the PPMSI.eddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778796377342661967noreply@blogger.com