Crossing the line

It is interesting that Rocky Bru here believed Bigdog had "crossed the line". A chance encounter Friday night will highlight further what it means.

Last Sunday, Bigdog had called upon Mukhriz to take a leave from his position as ANSARA President. [Read The Star here.] Too long for Mukhriz to not do much after coming out victorious from a leadership challenge many years ago.

MyKMU posting here justified the inconsistency in Mukhriz's suggestion to limit PM tenure but reluctant to give room for younger blood after more than 22 years. Though Secretary General gave a statement but Mukhriz speech had "crossed the line". 

Helen Ang here did touched on the visible reasons why Mahathir "crossed the line" to justify Mahathir loyalist bloggers for leaving the man. There is more than only the two. Many do not trust  the real motive of Mahathir's current fight.

Bigdog has expressed himself here. to explain more why Mahathir "crossed the line" Extract below:

What is glaring about Tun Dr. Mahathir, he expects every person who had served him before to be continuously loyal to him perpetually regardless all the contradictions he does, what position he takes and even the about turns and he lines he drew but eventually crosses.

This include all the manipulation, exaggeration, lies, slander and even seditious statements the prime minister of  Malaysia for 22 years did to demonise as a strategy to topple Prime Minister Najib, openly for the past 18 months.

Disagreement opinion and position on any of these matters tantamount to disloyalty and damnation by him.

That could be why Mahathir U-turnned on his own words and positions.

It is dangerous and regressive for the bloggers to be associated with the hallucinating Kelab Che Det and pro-Toon's hero worshiping and cult following practises. It is bordering on idol worshiping. 

This incident of Mahathir going so low to pick on bloggers is a repetition of the past.

In 2008, Mukhriz campaign for UMNO Youth leader was struggling and Mahathir stepped in to cut off the competition. He called Khir Toyo a competitor to his son corrupt.

And, a pro-Khir Toyo blog, http://cuitsikit.blogspot.my responded below:

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Tun Mahathir Mahu Mencatur UMNO Lagi?

Saya merupakan penyokong kuat Tun Mahathir Mohamad. Saya juga pengkritik kuat Pak Lah, namun ia tidak menjadikan saya taksub kepada Tun Mahathir sehingga bakal menghancurkan UMNO. Dr. Mahathir mahu mendedahkan kononnya nama pemimpin UMNO yang menggunakan mengamalkan politik wang. Dr. Mahathir sekali lagi mahu menjadi pendakwa dan penghukum.

Najib bercakap mudah kerana beliau menang tanpa bertanding. Memang mudah bercakap kerana berapa banyak Ketua Bahagian yang sudah mengidam projek dan sebagainya ingin menunjuk mereka yang setia kepadanya.

Kata Tun Mahathir, Muhyiddin dan Mukhriz, politik wang dalam UMNO hari ini sudah teruk dan amat kronik.

Tun Mahathir bercakap soal politik wang dalam UMNO seolah-olah ahli UMNO hari ini begitu dungu, bebal dan sanggup memilih sesiapa sahaja yang memberi wang yang lebih. Ini juga dinyatakan oleh DS Najib Tun Razak, TS Muhyiddin Yassin dan Mukhriz Mahathir.

Tun Mahathir juga memperli calon-calon lain yang dapat pencalonan lambat seperti Ali Rustam, Muhammad Muhd Taib, Khir Toyo dan Khairy Jamaluddin sebagai melakukan politik wang atau rasuah politik.

Jika ahli UMNO membuat keputusan demikian tentulah kita juga tertanya-tanya apakah Muhyiddin, Hishamuddin dan Mukhriz yang mendapat pencalonan terbanyak tidak memberi sebarang wang, jamuan, janji projek, jawatan dan juga menggunakan pengaruh kawan, sepupu dan bapa masing-masing?

Jika demikian bagaimana pula mereka boleh mendakwa UMNO ini penuh dengan ahli yang mengundi berdasarkan wang?

Kita ingin bertanya lagi, apakah Tun tidak lagi sedar kesilapan beliau melantik seseorang yang "clean" akhirnya menjadi huru hara negara ini? Apakah penilaian "clean" Tun kali ini akan lebih baik berbanding penilaian beliau terhadap Pak Lah dulu?

Apakah kerana Tun "favour" kepada Tan Sri Muhyiddin dan Datuk Mukhriz maka mahu dijahanamkan imej orang lain.

Selagi ada demokrasi, selagi itu ada keperluan penggunaan wang dalam kempen. Tun sepatutnya mendidik ahli UMNO dan rakyat membuat keputusan berdasarkan akal fikiran bukannyanya menghentam orang itu dan orang ini menggunakan wang dalam kempen. Tiada kempen politik dalam negara dan luar negara yang tidak menggunakan wang.

Tun menulis dalam catatan terbaru diblognya, "Juga dahulu rakyat tidak pernah tolak sebahagian besar calon UMNO dan Barisan Nasional dalam pilihanraya 1982, 1986, 1990, 1995 dan 1999 seperti yang berlaku pada pilihanraya umum 2008. Jika rasuah dahulu tidak berbeza dengan sekarang kenapakah BN menang majoriti 2/3 tiap pilihanraya umum dari tahun 1982-1999?"

Apakah kenyataan Tun ini benar atau sekadar membantu Mukhriz yang kononnya bersih dari sebarang gejala politik wang?

Cukuplah bercakap soal politik wang dalam parti. Belum ada orang bodoh atau tidak layak menang jawatan dalam UMNO melalui pertandingan biar sebanyak mana pun wang mereka taburkan. 

Sebaliknya sudah terbukti terdapat orang yang tidak layak memegang jawatan kerana kebolehan mereka mengampu pemimpin tertentu termasuk Tun.

Pak Lah sendiri dilantik oleh Tun, bukannya menang jawatan melalui politik wang.

Siapakah yang memulakan politik memberi wang tambang untuk pulang mengundi, jalan raya waktu pilihan raya, kenduri ketika pilihan raya, bantuan kepada fakir miskin ketika pilihan raya, bantuan orang cacat waktu pilihan raya, kain batik, kain pelikat dan beras waktu pilihan raya? Bukankah semua ini bermula waktu Tun. Apakah ini bukan rasuah politik?

Rakyat menolak BN kali ini kerana tidak sukakan polisi, dasar dan prestasi kerajaan BN. Jika isu rasuah dalam pemilihan parti yang menjadi alasan rakyat menolak UMNO, maka Tun perlu ingat dalam pemilihan lalu, jawatan Presiden, Timbalan Presiden, Ketua Wanita, Ketua Pemuda, Naib Ketua Pemuda dan Ketua Puteri tidak dipertandingkan.

Jadi apakah rasuah lebih besar dari zaman Tun dahulu?

Tun jangan nafikan bahawa politik wang terbesar berlaku ketika Anwar Ibrahim menentang Ghafar Baba. Berapa "pink form" yang ditabur oleh Anwar. Jumlahnya mencecah puluhan juta sehingga menyebabkan Ghafar tidak cukup pencalonan. Ini merupakan sejarah politik wang terbesar dalam UMNO. Namun UMNO tetap menang besar pada 1995.

Malahan mengapa Tun tidak langsung mengambil tindakan ke atas "anak didik kesayangannya" Anwar Ibrahim ketika itu? Apakah Tun yang mempunyai pelbagai jentera risikan ketika itu langsung tidak mengetahuinya?

Mengapa pula Tun begitu beria-ria bercakap soal politik wang selepas melihat anaknya bakal dicabar hebat oleh calon-calon lain untuk jawatan Ketua Pemuda, dan "ayam
sabungannya" Tan Sri Muhyidddin bakal dicabar oleh ali Rustam dan Mat Taib?

Cukuplah Tun mencaturkan UMNO selama ini. Biar Perwakilan UMNO pula membuat keputusan. Perwakilan UMNO bukan bodoh mahu mengundi berdasarkan wang ringgit.

Belum ada pemimpin lemah dilantik oleh perwakilan, tapi sudah terbukti Tun beberapa kali membuat kesilapan memilih orang tertentu menjadi pemimpin. Biarlah perwakilan UMNO pula membuat keputusan.

Banyak lagi isu agama dan bangsa yang sedang tercabar dan dicabar tetapi kita masih mahu memburukkan imej UMNO dengan cakap-cakap politik wang?

Apa guna lantik pemimpin nampak "bersih" tapi agama, bangsa, negara dan parti tunggang langgang?

Khir Toyo's boys had been big supporters and activists for Mahathir throughout Reformasi dan fight against Pak Lah. They not only silently assisted his campaign to bring Pak Lah down but even financially assisted Mukhriz's struggling 2008 general election campaign.

All these are not appreciated when he need to lend his son, Mukhriz a hand. Is he the only son that Mahathir is willing to go so low to be protective?

Well, there are many more examples. So we return back to the chance encounter with a former Reformasi activist last Friday night.

The former Reformasi activist was aware of Mahathir's attack on bloggers Rocky Bru and Big Dog and the past incident with the MyKMU boys.

In this game, we know each other and who been making fake claims of their so-called cyber propaganda ability. There is nothing personal between us and we do not snitch on each other. It is so unlike the newbie players today.

The former Reformasi activist was the person that created the rumour that one of Mahathir's son wanted to commit suicide due to financial problems when Banks knocked on his door. He was building up on a bailout story.

There are  many bailout stories of Mahathir's children but too few publicly known. Even Mukhriz has his own bailout story.

The former Reformasi activist claimed Mahathir sent out the Special Branch to go after him. Mahathir may not realise of his existence but he claimed he was apprehended and interrogated in a manner he felts was more vindictive than other reformasi activist had to undergo. 

It was rather puzzling as to how does such rumour affected national security. Market rumours are common happening in the opaque world of wheeling and dealing. Despite their talk of transparency and disclosure, it is all bull.

And, he said whenever anyone touch his childrren, Mahathir will go after you with vengence.

Serve him right we said to ourself. We told him, "Problem is you guys politicise into areas outside your expertise of only politics and got the information wrong."

Financial problem is true but he could have got a better deal. He claimed he was squeezed to sell at deep discount.

On the other hand, that argument may not be quite valid. When the Bank come knocking, maximising shareholders wealth is not a priority but immediate cashflow to tide through the crisis is a priority.

So we shared some bits that we know, "The financial problem may not be due to business but habit from personal indulgence that has gone awry.

"Can't confirm on the self abuse rumour but he was quite in a rutt. Heard he tried to get father-in-law to help but was refused and daddy's friends was forced to help out. Not sure if there is still a father-in-law."

Guess the name and details should be witheld. Mahathir could get personal and drag Rosmah but we shall not "cross the line" to drag someone not in politics into the political arena.