Monday, August 23, 2010

Umar Vadillo answers ABITW

Our posting on the Kelantan Gold Dinar posting here received an "official" response.

A commentator with the name Umar Pasha claiming to be the CEO of Kelantan Gold Trade Sdn Bhd left a comment.

It seems Umar Pasha is the shortname for Umar Pasha Ibrahim Vadillo, an authority in Gold Dinar. Here is his blog.

His Malaysian wife, Alawiyah Abdul Rahman Vadillo has a blog here.

Umar Pasha has written quite a few articles and books on Gold Dinar as a mean to remove riba in the monetary system. He has been actively promoting the idea to many Muslim countries. Google his name. If it he himself, then it must be an honour for ABITW.

His comment is reproduced below:
I am Umar Vadillo, CEO of Kelantan Golden Trade. The Company is fully owned by Perbadanan Menteri Besar Kelantan.

The Gold Dinar is piece of gold of a weight known as the mithqal, that is, 4.25 gr. Gold is a commodity like potatoes and rice. When used in an exchange is not a promise of payment, but a payment.

Unlike paper money it does not require to be backed up by any legal authority, nor does it seek to be backed. Its value, unlike paper money, does not depend on legal compulsion but freedom.

Dinar and Dirham have been the currency (known as Shariah currency) of the Muslim Ummah from the beginning of Islam until the fall of the Khalifat.

After the fall of the Khalifate, the newly born postcolonial Muslim States were legally bound by their GIVEN constitutions, a final present of the colonial masters that granted them the continuation of their colonial rule by other means: monetary economics.

Essentially it forced the post-colonial states to accept the paper of the old colonies to back their own papers. This New World Order gave the USA the right to give pieces of paper (dollars) in exchange of oil, aluminium, gas, etc. If the need more they printed more.

Three critical instruments present in all constitutions: Central Bank, National Debt and Legal Tender; granted capitalism total dominance. These instruments perpetuate Riba and thus the hegemony of banking.

In order to achieve this, a brain washing was needed that would keep political debate off the subject.

That was easily achieved by the complete deification of an old ideology, economics (known as the sect in XVIII Europe) into the realm of pure science (scientism). The rest is the identification of political rule with economic rational.

Islam had to be curved of 2/3 of its fiqh, those parts relating to the matters of muamalat, and this job was given to the "Islamic modernists" or “Islamic Protestants”, the same people that brought us the so-called Islamic banking.

Ignorance of muamalat is the dominant fact of the current Islamic debate, and thus it is impossible to understand the difference between Dinar and Ringgit, freedom and legal tender, suqs and malls, caravans and monopolistic distribution, guilds and capitalist production, riba and interest, shirkat and majority share contracts.

The consequence is a hilarious debate the nature of which was best expressed by Humpty Dumpty in "Alice in Wonderland": "the meaning of the words is whatever I wish them to be".

The Dinar is not the solution to everything, but it is a fundamental response to the monetary slavery of the Legal Tender.

It will help to remove the label: "I am totally stupid" from our foreheads; it will finish the theft of inflation once for all; it will eliminate foreign exchange; it will eliminate banking in all its forms (commercial, so-called Islamic, central, etc); it will restore freedom to choose and freedom to trade as the foundational right granted by Allah in Qur'an: "Trade with mutual consent".

Dinar does not belong to PAS or UMNO. Choosing Dinar is freedom and is the Islamic thing to do.
We know that Umar.

Do tell PAS to stop politicising it. PAS has a reputation to politicise anything, and go back on their past words. There is no exception, even heaven and hell, and the name of Allah. What is to stop them from politicisng the Gold Dinar?

Commentators suggested reading Din Merican here and other links. What would be Umar's reply?

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why is it that coming from kelantan is politicising? What is politic in the first place? Is politic that dirty?

Your faith and ours are sooo diferent here. In islam we do not consider politic as being separated from religion. Islam itself is a way of life. politic is only a small component of islam and when things are treated out of it, we scream! simple because we have faith in islam. Remember, politic and islam are not isolated!

Bingai @ Bangang said...

Mohon izin artikel ini sebagai rujukan di artikel saya.

Aku Yang Bingai
1. Cina Mulakan Perdagangan Dengan Yuan Berbanding Ringgit
2. Dinar Emas - Bukan Idea Tun Mahathir?

Anonymous said...

why do you always label someone who is trying to promote good stuff and always think bad of them...
Can't we just take what's good there is and let go our personal grieve. And just think good of whatever his trying to give...
can't we do that???
Haish.

Anonymous said...

Dinar & Dirham (DD) dan ringgit
adalah dalam dunia yang berbeza.

Ringgit dan dolar adalah kertas 'legal tender' yg perlukan lawyers seperti Karpal Singh untuk menjadikannya legal.Hakikatnya dolar tetap kertas sampai bila-bila pun.

Sementara DD adalah barangan yakni 1 dinar adalah 4.25 grm bahan emas dan 1 dirham pada anggaran 3 grm bahan perak.
Sampai bila pun ia tetap bahan emas dan perak dan bukan kertas.

2 dinar ialah bahan 8.5 grm emas dan 2 dirham tetap 6 grm perak sampai bila-bila pun emas tetap emas dan perak tetap perak. Jadi tak perlu lawyers untuk katakan masing-masing adalah emas dan perak. Emas dan perak bukan kertas yang perlukan lawyers mengesahkan keemasan dan keperakannya.Jangan bimbang DD bukan legal tender dan tak perlukan status itu.

Kalau dah suka sama suka nak bertukar dengan bahan/barangan lain
apakah salahnya? Nak ekonomi paksaan ke? Yang paksa kita terima nilai yang tertulis pada kertas adalah Bank Dunia dan IMF. Masih nak dakap Bank Dunia dan IMF?

Kalau IMF dan Bank Dunia komplen, katakan kita akan beri kertas yang banyak kepada mereka untuk kita dapatkan emas dan perak.

Kepada yang bimbang tentang legal tender tu katakan kpd IMF bahawa ketika ini nak beli dinar dan dirham pun kena guna ringgit dan dollar. Maknanya legal tender RM dan $ masih relevan. (ingat RM, rupiah, dan euro dll pun tertambat kepada dolar).

Apa yang masing2 nak buat selepas kertas ditukar kepada DD ikut masing-masinglah! Berilah kepada IMF kertas banyak2!

Kalau dah pandai sangat biarlah aje kpd yang nak jadi 'bodoh'. Ambilah pandai tu.
Kalau dah kata DD kerja yang tak ada kesan, apa perlu nak sibuk2?

Dr M pun bermula dengan tidak percaya kepada DD tetapi akhirnya jadi the leading promoter bagi DD.

Saidina Umar AlKhattab r.a. pun bermula dgn pedang nak pancung orang islam tetapi akhirnya kepala kafir yang kena.

Nabi Nuh a.s pun orang tak percaya akan ada banjir, akhirnya tenggelam juga orang yg tak percaya.

Seronok juga tengok politik orang tak percaya. Sekurang-kurangnya mereka berfikir dan cuba debat dan akhirnya jumpa jawapan yg sepatutnya untuk masing2. Yg diam membatu buat dunno tu yg lebih payah nak berubah.Kadang mereka ni akhirnya jadi pak turut aje.

udah-udah le sembah Bank dunia, IMF dan dolar.

DD

Anonymous said...

haiyaa .. PAS politicising this issue !!! dont u read that , how to make this realize?? even their dont know and dont have any plan , this PAS only talk and want to show off about islamic at the end they know nothing and talk talk talk only ... even some PAS idiots trying to degrading Tun Mahathir becoz they so prouds and the first make it???

now who politicising this issue??

soo childish .

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